Weekend Reading – Surviving a recession edition

Weekend Reading – Surviving a recession edition

Welcome to an updated Weekend Reading post: surviving a recession edition.

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Weekend Reading – Surviving a recession edition

Are we headed for a recession?

Weekend Reading - Recession

Image Source: Pexels.

Could be. The Bank of Canada is trying to avoid that with some jumbo rate cuts coming.

In a recent article I read, Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce says policymakers led by Governor Tiff Macklem will reduce the interest policy rate by 50 basis points at each upcoming meeting in December and January, according to new forecasts for 2025. 

Eventually, CIBC predicts our central bank to end the easing cycle next June 2025, arriving at a policy rate of 2.25%.

For those keeping score from where we are, that’s a very swift round of cuts and with unemployment rates spiking, there’s really no reason not to speed up the rate cut process…

You might recall our Bank of Canada started reducing the benchmark overnight rate this June, and has since lowered it by 25 basis points at its July and September meetings, bringing the rate to 4.25% from 5% at the peak of the hiking cycle.

Another lender, National Bank of Canada, more near-term anticipates a 50 basis point cut before the end of 2024. That means we should be down to at least 3.75% by the holidays.

When rates fall, some of the immediate impacts seen equate to bond pricing = bond prices head higher as interest rates drop and vice versa. Other impacts occur too. Guaranteed Investment Certificate (GIC) rates (that typically allow customers to lock in their cash for a set return over a period of six months, a year, two years or more) fall in interest value. And, not surprisingly, Higher Interest Savings Accounts (HISAs) fall in correlation with the central bank’s policy rate.

On the plus-side, when money flows out of more secure investments – where could it go??

Back into some equities. 🙂

While the stock market has less of a direct correlation with the Bank of Canada’s interest rate cycle it can be good/beneficial for stocks in general because rates coming down signals an effort to stimulate growth in the economy – and the stock market is a forward looking indicator for growth.

Anyone paying attention of late, as a faithful owner of utility stocks as an example, has seen a sudden rise in those stock returns of late. Companies like Fortis (FTS) and Capital Power (CPX) among others are flying.

Thanks to lower interest rates the party in that sector may just be starting – utilities enjoy and can thrive in a lower interest rate environment.

(Disclosure: I own all those utility stocks listed and more at the time of this post.)

How long could you weather a recession?

In a previous article on my site, a poll highlighted a modest number of Canadians would expect to suffer in a recession. More than a quarter of Canadians feel they wouldn’t be able to financially weather a recession…

Recession Yahoo November 2022

That’s not very good for sure…

A recession is typically defined by a contraction in economic growth (i.e., two consecutive quarters of falling GDP), lasting at least six months. And…the signs this could be happening are the following:

  • Slowing economic growth.
  • Industry layoffs/higher unemployment. 

I’ve previously shared on my site, there is certainly more than one way for a recession to start:

  • A sudden economic shock: The coronavirus outbreak was a good but sad, powerful example.
  • Excessive debt: When individuals or businesses take on too much debt, the cost of servicing such debt grows. Growing debt can trigger defaults. Bubbles happen and need to pop.
  • Asset bubbles: Irrational exuberance can inflate stock prices or asset classes. Corrections are necessary and required.
  • Too much inflation: Inflation isn’t a bad thing but excessive inflation is bad. Inflation was out of control in the 1970s as an example. It wasn’t much fun recently either! 
  • Too much deflation: While runaway inflation can create a recession, deflation can be even worse. Deflation is when prices decline over time, which causes wages to contract, which further depresses prices. Japan struggled with deflation throughout most of the 1990s and well beyond.

Are there ways to survive a recession?

For sure.

Here is what I’ve thought about over the years and how I continue to manage our portfolio for any recession period:

1. Keep cashflow as king. I see some financial experts quoting “cash is king” but while cash is good, managing your cashflow is much better. I prefer cashflow as king.

Ultimately, you should always be living below your means which means you’re running a financial surplus every month. That surplus should go into an emergency fund / cash surplus first and then into income producing investments (in my opinion) next. We’ve managed our portfolio this way for years. We keep a modest and growing cash wedge and we have rising dividends and distributions rolling in every month for future spending.

August 2024 Dividend Income Update

This combination is a HUGE enabler for us and could be for you too – if something happens to your job and/or you are temporarily unemployed at least.

The Cash Wedge – Managing Market Volatility

2. Keeping my emergency fund intact – until I need it. Given you are running a surplus every month, cash savings stored away (even at lower rates) can be used as needed for spending during a recession. If you need to find ways of running a surplus, then be ruthless with your budget and avoid unnecessary subscriptions, dining out, and any discretionary items you can cut back on. This might not be easy…but required. 

3. Mind your debt. If you have a mortgage still, that’s probably enough. Work on paying it off. Consumer debt will be more costly in a recession when budgets get tighter. Where possible, as always, avoid lingering consumer / credit card debt and any major lines of credit.

(We have no debt at all which remains financially liberating.)

4. Finally, practice diversification and keep the investing course. Going all-in on a few stocks or stocks in just a few sectors could be risky to your financial situation. See Algonquin Power (AQN) of late in recent years – anything can happen to any one stock. Recessions come and go, eventually, so don’t let your emotions get the best of you near-term when your financial plan is designed for the long-term. 

Whether you own individual stocks or a global fund of stocks – ensure your portfolio is diverisfied across many industry sectors and any cash-related needs. 

How long do recessions last?

Well, recessions, hardly fun for anyone, are normal and a period to get things back into economic balance.

In referencing our C.D. Howe Institute, we’ve had five recessions since 1970. These recessions usually last between three to nine months.

So, best plan for them, expect them from time to time, expect them to last up to nine months, and learn to navigate them in the years ahead. 

More Weekend Reading…

This recession-talk reminded me what Dividend Growth Investor wrote about generational wealth.

“Anyway, let’s imagine a family which:

  1. Invested $10,000 in S&P 500 at the end of 1927
  2. Turned the DRIP on
  3. Let the investment alone until today

They would have a portfolio worth $74,200,000 today.”

Incredible…see rule #4 above = practice diversification and keep the investing course. 

As a young multi-millionnaire here is DGI’s risk management plan and one to follow IMO:

“My risk management process is very simple:

1. I limit how much I invest in each position

2. I diversify

3. I focus on Established Dividend Growth Companies

4. I let winners run, and rarely sell

5. I maintain conservative personal finances and a high savings rate.

@DividendGrowth Source: https://x.com/DividendGrowth/status/1834922840522416627

On Financial Independence Hub, it is reasonable to have irrationally high portfolio return expectations?

Well, when I consider future returns, I’m somewhat aligned to the 2024 Projection Assumption Guidelines for professional financial planners across Canada. These new guidelines came into effect April 30, 2024. 

Designed to look beyond the current day rate environment, these Guidelines are intended to be used when making long-term projections of 10 years or more.

I use at the very top-end 6% returns for near 100% equity portfolios, including my own from time-to-time.

More conservatively we use 5% annualized returns for my own financial independence projections along with 3% sustained inflation for 2% real return since I believe those values are both realistic and sustainable when it comes to our plan. Your mileage may vary. 

Financial Independence Update

You can download the Guidelines for free here – a good annual resource. 

Bob from Tawcan is on his way to semi-retirement soon – and so am I. Bob was very kind to interview yours truly in this recent post. I welcome your thoughts and comments about what we discussed!

Dividend Growth Investor Q&A series – My Own Advisor

@NewcomerInvest was very excited with the recent Brookfield Corporation $BN Investor Day replay – especially so when senior management owns a whopping $20B of Brookfield. 

 
Brookfield Stock BN

Source: https://x.com/NewcomerInvest/status/1833618662122787208

He has every reason to be bullish. Brookfield has a growth plan and as a $BN shareholder I will be happy to go along for the ride. 🙂

Brookfield Stock BN Forecasts

With thanks to @BarrySchwartzBW

Source: https://x.com/BarrySchwartzBW/status/1833652107053875707/photo/1

Finally, over at Cashflows & Portfolios, we wondered:

“…can retirement occur at all despite not investing in your TFSAs at all until age 45?”

Well, read our post to find out. 

How Much Do I Need to Save to Retire by 60?

Have a great weekend!

Mark

33 Responses to "Weekend Reading – Surviving a recession edition"

  1. Lloyd (64, retired at 55) · Edit

    Beginning to look at 2025 spending and forecast. Even if the market just maintains where it is at, the RRIF minimum withdrawal is going to be quite a bit higher. Looks like indexing on the company pensions and CPP will come in around 2.5% (ish). Being retired, a run of the mill recession will have zero effect on us. I feel for the younger folks though. I can’t imagine trying to deal with all that is going on. )-:

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    1. Well, rates coming down is a good thing overall but not sure it’s a good sign in the broader economic context.

      We’ll see of course – I can’t predict the future but I do believe 2025 could be a correction year but will stay invested anyhow. 🙂

      You’re set with your plan and low-cost income ETFs Lloyd. Kudos.
      Mark

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      1. Lloyd (64, retired at 55) · Edit

        I believe that there is a sort of neutral zone for interest rates (neither stimulating or suppressing economic activity). Getting outside that neutral zone (whatever it may be) is when the problems arise. They jacked up interest rates to suppress, now hopefully these reductions will bring us into neutral without over compensating. Hope springs eternal.

        Big fan of stability, which makes me somewhat concerned as I don’t see much of a pathway for it anymore. Maybe it’s best for me to just stop reading the news? 😉

        Take care.

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        1. Ha. Well, there will always be a bit of doom-and-gloom when it comes to interest rates I think. I think rates coming down in the coming months, overall, is a good thing for most as long as employment numbers remain steady/stabilize.

          Mark

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  2. Re: Generational Wealth – investing $10,000 in 1927 worth $74,200,000 today
    I get what Dividend Growth Investor is saying but still found this to be rather funny. Firstly, it would have been extremely difficult for a family to come up with $10,000 to invest in 1927. That would be equivalent to a family in 2024 investing $175,147. Secondly, how many members of that family would be alive today, 97 years later, to realize their buy and hold investment.

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    1. Yes, his post was about the magic of compounding but certainly getting a high saving starting point is key. Kinda like saying investing very early and often is ideal but for any teenagers and early 20-somethings, the reality is, most can’t afford to invest very much.

      How is your investing coming along Bernie? Anything new with the portfolio?
      Mark

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      1. Can’t complain Mark, I’ve been retired since 2012 and despite drawing income from my RRIF since 2018 & non-registered account on occasion the capital balance of my 3 accounts is 86.5% greater than it was when I stopped working.

        My stock content of dividend growth stocks, which was near 100% at the end of 2011, is now roughly 54%. I’m still near 100% in equities but 46% of my holdings are now in a diversified mix of income & growth mutual funds and ETFs. The changes were mostly made in the past 2 years to increase diversity and dampen my overall volatility while still providing good growth and income.

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        1. Phenomenal, Bernie. I hope to catch-up to folks like you!! 🙂

          Ya, although I remain with my hybrid approach I’ve simplified our portfolio since 2016 and bought more XAW and then got into some QQQ for my main equity ETFs to support my 20-something basket of CDN stocks. I’ve sold many U.S. stocks since XAW and QQQ do most of the heavy-lifting for me but I still own BRK.B, WMT, NEE and a few others.

          So, to your point, I’ve made those changes to also increase the diversity in my portfolio – so far, so good.

          Continued success and keep me posted on what you buy. 🙂
          Mark

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  3. Thanks Mark for reminding us what may be coming on the horizon. What a timely article on possible recession hitting us. In U.S., many analysts are very optimistic and believe the economy would be better given it is an election year in U.S and interest rate cuts are coming. Thus, investors are moving their cash to equities. Now, that the AI power of transformation is here, more and more funds will be funneled towards the tech and industrial sectors. Canada should follow the same path if the economy in U.S. improves. To be on the safe side, it’s always prudent to keep a sufficient amount of cash on hand in case the recession hits us.

    Good luck to everyone and hopefully, the economy will get better.

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    1. Thanks, Ken. The coming months will be interesting!

      100% = “To be on the safe side, it’s always prudent to keep a sufficient amount of cash on hand in case the recession hits us.”

      How much cash / % of cash are you keeping these days just in case?
      Mark

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      1. Thanks Mark for you comments.
        I have about 10% in cash.
        Next Wednesday Sep 18 would be an interesting day to see what kind of interest rate cut the U.S. Fed will give the market. If it’s 50 basis point (very doubtful), the market will explode!!!! Ha..ha..

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        1. Ha, it might!? We’ll see. They are saying at least 25 bps cut by Fed, right?
          Some of my utility stocks are flying now: NEE, SO, and Canadian ones I mentioned in the post too. More BoC rate cuts on the way I believe based on what is forecasted. Sometimes stocks go up too!

          Smart on the cash. I think if I include my corporation cash we’re close to 7-8% or so. I would like it closer to 10% like you and working on that cash wedge for semi-retirement. Likely to be used in 2025.

          Mark

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  4. Hi Mark: My position in BAM.A was a combination of greed and dumb luck. In the ’90’s I bought 800 shares of Great Lakes Power. They split in two so that gave me 1600 shares. In 1999 Brascan took Great Lakes private. My 1600 shares would be worth 1448 of Brascan. At the time Great Lakes paid a dividend of $.64 while Brascan paid $1.00. I did the math and took the shares instead of the money. Brascan changed its name to Brookfield Asset Management. Within the next six years BAM.A split their shares three times 3/2. Now I have 4887 shares and I thought this was a bi-yearly event, so I bought 500 more, but the shares just sat there, but the company did start spinning off their platform companies and then in 2011 they split the shares 3/2 again. Now I have 8080 shares. In 2020 they split the shares 3/2 again so now I have 12120 shares. When the company took BPY.UN private I received 67 BAM.A shares. That is how I got to my total of 12187. Base cost is between $55000- $56000 so in the future there will be much capital gain. It is the company that keeps on giving as in a couple of weeks they plan to spin off the Manager to shareholders. The Manager will be Brookfield Asset Management while the company will be Brookfield Corp. Brookfield Corp. will still own 3/4 of the Manager while the Manager will look after the platform companies and pay dividends and distributions.

    b

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  5. Hi Mark: The brokerage in question is TD Webbroker. Thanks for the advice. Before I received the dividends, I looked at the currency rates on the Globe and Mail. That is why I was expecting more than I got. It may seem small but on 12187 shares it adds up.

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  6. Hi Mark,
    Thank you for another great article.
    I know in recessions living below your means is the best way to survive it but last month we took a two week trip to Mexico and right after that came back and put a deposit on a brand new car that I hope to get it delivered by May of next year, I know we always worry about retirement but at my previous job I remember coworkers worked for the company for 30 or more years with a hefty pension only to die a year or two later and a couple within few months so like we all know tomorrow is not guaranteed so this is why we decided to strike a balance between saving and enjoying life and also helping the kids now with their education and help them maxing their tfsa instead of waiting till we pass from this life.
    On the investing side I can’t wait for Jan 1 to deploy the 13k this year in our tfsa I have my eyes on ATD but it’s at all time high so I’m not sure if I should wait for a pullback but all I know is that it’s a great company with a strong balance sheet low yield with a great dividend growth so we’ll see.

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    1. A great reminder, Gus.

      Yes, I hope to start semi-retirement for a few reasons soon: 1) more time to enjoy things beyond work 2) more time to divert to passion projects, hobbies and exercise and 3) more time for travel including local stuff. It’s hardly all about money for sure.

      That said, I have my $13k almost ready to go. Just a bit more savings to make. I will provide an update on that, this week.

      I own ATD in my taxable account for growth. I have my eye on a mix of WCP, BCE and XAW for my TFSA but I haven’t nailed that yet.

      Thanks for reading and sharing. Keep me posted on your purchase(s)!
      Mark

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  7. Hi Mark: I receive this online newsletter that showed up like junk mail. They confirm that it looks like we are heading into a recession. The letter is called Pitchbooks and deals with new PE’s and venture companies mainly in the US but also in Europe and overseas. I scroll the companies in the letter to see if any pertain to me as sometimes, they mention BAM.A or its affiliates, or Shopify and the pension funds as they deal in real assets. On another topic I am curious about the $US to CAN. conversion factor. It appears that in this case you can never calculate beforehand what your dividend may be. The stock in question is BAM.A and its affiliates. At the end of Sept., the Canadian dollar was a way down and the posted rate went from $1.368- $1.378 but when I got my dividend from BAM.A the conversion rate was $1.3445. It had never been that low all summer. Since you appear to be in the industry and studying stocks seems to be a passion so that is probably why you would work part time I wondered if you could answer this discrepancy. It has me puzzled. Thanks! By the way, recessions are good as you can buy stock at a discount.

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    1. We’re a BAM.A holder so maybe I can assist. The BAM.A Sept 29, 2022 dividend declared was .14 USD or .1848 CAD (1.32 conversion). According to the Brookfield web page, the distribution is converted using the average CAD value 14 days prior to distribution day (so Sept 15). The CAD low and high for Sept 15 was 1.3159 & 1.3251 giving a simple average of (1.3159 + 1.3251)/2 = 1.3205.

      This is my interpretation of the numbers, I never asked an expert.

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    2. Depending on the brokerage, could be/should be Bank of Canada spot rates? re: spot rate in foreign exchange is the current exchange rate between two currencies. It is the price to be paid today for immediate settlement in an exchange of two currencies.

      Best to double-check with brokerage directly about how they manage any dividend conversions/payments since they all do things a bit differently is my experience.

      Also, related note, the brokerage (depending on who you use) could also take a small cut/charge a fee for various transactions. See Questrade as an example:
      https://www.questrade.com/pricing/self-directed-commissions-plans-fees/transaction

      Hope that helps a bit!
      Mark

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  8. Recessions are kind of a nonevent for retired people like us. In fact it would probably help reduce the cost of the vacation home we are building if the housing bubble bursts at the same time. We do everything with cash, never borrow money, so the mortgage interest rates are immaterial to us. If you are financially set then a recession just looks like everything is going on sale. Of course I wouldn’t wish it on younger people who still have to have a job, but if it does happen there will be winners and losers depending on financial status and stage of life.

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    1. Thanks Steve. I love this for my motivation since I feel the same way:

      “If you are financially set then a recession just looks like everything is going on sale.”

      Not great for younger folks or folks struggling though for sure.

      Mark

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  9. Hi Mark: I got laid off when I was 43 going on 44 so I have been out of the work force for going on 31 years. I never made much money and so don’t consider myself well off although I am. The reason I say that is because as a salaried employee there are different codes were 1 is at the bottom and 13 is at the top. I started at 1 and improved to codes 3 and 4 so you can see I was at the lower level, but with the power of compounding I have managed to survive. The ’70’s were more than inflation as it was an economic shock. When OPEC raised the price of oil suddenly interest rates increased rapidly. New preferred’s you could get for 22% and Canada Savings Bonds could be had for 19.5%. As mentioned before I mainly dealt though a broker until 1990 and I didn’t start a RRSP until 1988 at which time I double dipped. Anything from 1992 on would be interest income so I stopped contributing, but it built up anyways. Most of my portfolio is non-registered and most are blue chips. Like DividendsOn stated even blue chips can have nasty surprises. In 1999 TransCanada cut its dividend. If you are in to high priced, low yield stocks I’ve got one for you to check out. It is sort of off the beaten path and I don’t see it mentioned much, but stock in question is OLY-T. When I first noticed it, it was a $40 stock paying a dividend of $2.40. I looked at it again and it is now $63.99 and pays $3.24 for a 5.06% yield. They are mostly into pension plans and healthcare.

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    1. Yes, I recall TRP cut their dividend many years ago. I wasn’t a DIY investor then but I remember articles about it.
      Interesting, OLY. Quite the 5-year chart!

      Thanks for shairng,
      Mark

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  10. Thanks so much for the mention, Mark!

    I’m hopeful that Canada will be able to avoid a recession. (But I’m getting more doubtful by the day.) Too many people and businesses are still recovering from the impacts of COVID—it doesn’t seem fair that they keep getting knocked down. 🙁

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    1. For sure, Chrissy. Very challenging. Recessions are tough for many including small business owners and it’s those people I really feel sorry for since they take on so much finanical and related risks to be entrepreneurial. I hope the recession doesn’t last long.
      It’s been a tough 2.5 years for many folks.

      I liked your Q&A on your site 🙂
      Mark

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  11. Hi Mark,

    I was mostly working right through the 1970’s and even though there was inflation and I wasn’t exactly making a high salary I seemed to manage to get through it all relatively unscathed financially.

    In retirement now, for seventeen years and the 4% rule doesn’t apply to us at all. We’re lucky enough to have pensions from our workplace but that was pre-planned about forty years ago when I was in my early 30’s. The only item we’re mandated to withdraw from is the minimum from our RRIF’s. Early this year the after tax cash from the RRIF withdrawal went into buying more dividend stocks in the non-registered account but I think in 2023 I may change that a bit and save the money for the maximum 2024 TFSA contributions. The contributions for 2023 are already waiting for January. By my calculations the RRIF accounts should last until our mid-90’s (if either of us are still alive).

    Unfortunately as my wife and I have seen, unplanned expenses in retirement can be much larger than expected. The only way around it for our own personal comfort zone was to have a much larger cash allocation in a HISA than probably most others would, but it seems to work for us.

    We own shares in Algonquin but with around thirty or so other Canadian dividend companies in our taxable portfolio, I’m not too worried about it. Perhaps they cut the dividend, perhaps not. I don’t know. I’ve been around long enough to see even what are tagged as Canadian blue chip companies make a tragic mistake and the original investors lose their whole investment. That’s always the worst, but fortunately it doesn’t happen too often.

    Have a great weekend.

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    1. Gosh, 17 years in retirement? Kudos.

      I loved reading the 4% rule didn’t apply – ha. I figured it might not to many retirees…

      “The contributions for 2023 are already waiting for January.”

      Me too! I might buy some energy, BCE and XAW for me. Not sure yet. You??

      Like you, I also own AQN (I think you know that), so yes, perhaps a dividend cut which is fine since <1.5% of my portfolio overall in it. Almost insignificant.

      We’ll see how things shake down but I suspect with 30 or so other CDN stocks you are hardly worried! 🙂
      Mark

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      1. Aside from it will be an index ETF in the TFSA’s I haven’t finalized on which one yet Mark, so good question. I may just decide to continue with ZBAL which we’ve owned since early 2020, or there may be a complete change into XAW you’ve mentioned above. The RRIF’s will stay the same invested in ZBAL.

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