January 2025 Dividend Income Update

January 2025 Dividend Income Update

Well hello, and welcome to a new dividend income update – my first of 2025!

As many readers know, we have maintained a hybrid investing approach for over 15 years now and we’ll continue with this approach in 2025:

  1. We invest in Canadian and U.S. dividend paying stocks – about 25-some stocks that collectively deliver income and growth, and
  2. We invest in some low-cost equity ETFs – that deliver (hopefully) long-term growth for extra diversifcation. 

You can always read a bit more about what we own, why and where (i.e., in what accounts) on this dedicated My Dividends page here.

January 2025 Dividend Income Update

What will the investing year bring?

We’re already a few weeks into the start of another investing year and while it’s probably wise to never say never when it comes to predicting investing returns, it’s hard to imagine 2025 being as good as recent years. 

While every individual stock we own cannot be a high-flyer, some stocks we do own continue to fly higher to support our dividend income and overall growth story.

At the time of writing this post recently:

  • Walmart (WMT), up about 5% YTD and over 150% since we’ve owned it.
  • Brookfield (BN), while up only slightly this year this stock is also up over 70% in the last 5-years since we’ve owned more of it.
  • Waste Connections (WCN), up about 7% or so YTD but is also up an impressive 90%+ in the last 5-years.

Source: Google Finance.

There are other examples in our portfolio too. 

Beyond these stocks, we also own our usual suspects of bond-like proxies but certainly not every Canadian bond-proxy stock is doing as well. 

You’ll recall as part my/our hybrid investing approach, I’ve essentially created our own Canadian dividend fund over the last few decades.

As part of that DIY Canadian dividend fund, we focus on “TULF” stocks and I use XIU over the years to help screen these “TULF” stocks to own:

  • “T” = Telecommunication companies e.g, Telus.
  • “U” = Utilities e.g., Fortis. 
  • “L” = Low-yielding dividend growth stocks with growth potential e.g., Canadian National Railway.
  • “F” = Financials e.g., big Canadian banks.

Basically, I own companies that I believe you and I need to rely on, collectively, for bond-like income:

  • Telcos – people love their internet and cell phones. 
  • Utilities – people like electricity.
  • Low-yielding growth stocks – we need to ship things around our country, so owning rail companies make sense. 
  • Financials – people get mortgages and borrow money and need insurance. 

I think you get the idea by now…!

Admittedly, some of the stocks in our DIY Canadian stock collection are not high-flyers (e.g., Telus of late, Canadian Natural Resources, and a few others). I mean, they can’t be – it’s largely impossible for everything to be a winner all the time. Some stocks will do well at times while others lag in price. Just the way it goes. Averaging it all out, things are just fine. Even though I don’t obsess over benchmarking, my Canadian non-registered portfolio (where we keep only Canadian stocks) is up over 140% over the last 10-years to date. This is pretty much right on where XIU has performed without the fees. Again, not surprising since we own most of the top-20 stocks that XIU has anyhow. 

During this multi-year bull market run, even some lazy ETFs we own have done well. The ex-Canada global ETF we own is up quite a bit since we started buying some in 2016. It’s up about 10% annualized over the last 9 years. (The 10-year returns for this ETF should be out in a few months.) And in more recent years, the NASDAQ-100 ETF we own is providing a nice tech-kicker return too; returning well over 100% over the last 5-years. 

Although I’m largely pessimistic about near-term returns given how well 2023 and 2024 returns were in particular, I am equally hopeful our portfolio will continue to generate returns at or beyond 5% annualized in the coming decade – those target returns along with my inflationary assumptions are included in our financial independence projections.

Financial Independence Budget

2025 is a Transition Year

Where do we go from here, for the rest of 2025?

With our TFSAs now maxed out of contribution room, and with some part-time work planned to occur soon (official details on the way….), we don’t have new money to invest in 2025 as much as we used to.

2025 is going to be a significant transition year for us and I’m sure our dividend income updates will reflect that. Instead of dividend income rising by the thousands per year (see chart below!) I anticipate our dividend income earned will level off a bit starting in 2025.

December 2024 Dividend Income Update

Without any new significant funds to invest this year (although some investments may occur sporadically), the income growth will need to come from dividend or distribution raises almost exclusively moving forward – inside our taxable accounts.

Beyond that, cash/cash equivalents rising in value in our registered accounts will be used for withdrawals to meet our lifestyle needs. Those registered withdrawals will need to occur as early as winter/spring 2026. So, my expectations that our dividend income will rise in perpetuity as part of these updates needs to be tempered. 

Then again, that’s the entire point. 

We’ve worked hard over the years to build assets as part of this hybrid portfolio to start semi-retirement with in 2025 – so here we are after decades of investing. 

As we start a new year of monthly income updates, here are some other reminders to level-set:

  1. I do not post these updates to announce that our approach to investing is superior to anyone or anything else. These posts are not to brag. Hardly. Rather, I have and will continue to share these updates to chronicle both our financial independence journey and to share what’s working or not, in that journey. I’ve been doing this for 15 years. That journey is going to be a drawdown journey very soon!! It is my hope you can use this information to make your own personal finance decisions to your benefit and engage with me along the way. 
  2. Through these updates, I am never suggesting that such stocks or ETFs posted on this site are for your direct purchase. Your investing journey is personal and unique to you.
  3. While some stocks do very well in our portfolio, at times, others lag or are downright terrible at times. You know the saying “…past performance is never indicative of future results”? Well, that’s very true. As such, I need to make a few decisions now and then to either buy stocks that I believe are on sale or kick stocks to the curb (see Algonquin Power)!
  4. Finally, related to this point, all portfolios need some attention from time to time. A 60/40 stock/bond portfolio needs rebalancing. Even plowing money into an all-in-one equity ETF should have at least a dollar-cost-averaging approach to employ and monitor. Failure to adapt and revisit how you’re investing when conditions around you change is just silly IMO. Time has a way of forcing all of us to challenge our assumptions, and make changes, usually for the better! 

As I start 2025 and these updates in particular, I’m very curious to say the least to see how things could work out for us. 

Our hybrid investing approach has been a multi-decade journey that has included a few twists and turns for sure but things have stablized in recent years to prepare for what’s to come. 

January 2025 Dividend Income Update Summary

At the time of this post, we’re projecting we might earn close to $52,000 in 2025 from a few key accounts (not all our accounts mind you) to help fund semi-retirement. That assumes no dividends nor distributions get cut in our portfolio and it also assumes we don’t buy many equities in 2025 either. 

If I do make a few major purchases in 2025 I will let you know and if dividend cuts occur that impact our income in a big way I will let you know too.

It’s early days this year. We just started another investing year amidst a whirlwind of global and political uncertainty like never before. 2025 could be an interesting investing year to say the least but I am hopeful it is a rewarding one to build upon from what we started so many years ago… 

Mark

21 Responses to "January 2025 Dividend Income Update"

  1. Its been a little over 10 years now I’ve been following your journey. Astounding progress. So well done.

    It has to be very exciting for you getting to FIWOOT, and with such a bright future whether being employed or not!

    Congratulations and best wishes.

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    1. Very kind. Certainly, not easy times to be an investor these days but I will stick with my plan!
      I look forward to bouncing more investing ideas off you for many years to come.
      Mark

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      1. Thanks. Its certainly a time with many things going on and so many future unknowns! Being prepared and ready to weather a good storm is I hope where all folks are.

        Same here. Its been great to have that exchange.

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        1. Yes, totally agree on the storms. Potentially it all starts today via tarrifs. We shall see.
          Continued navigation and succes to you!
          Mark

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  2. While there is a decent boost to most dividends from TULF stocks most years, I extract in-kind stocks from my RRIF since the non-reg and RRIF share a subset of Canadian Stocks (I load up on tech/Nasdaq in the RRIF also). This gets me another source of natural boost to my dividend income until I start CPP/OAS when I’m 71. I will point out that my RRIF is still higher than when I started my retirement so my RRSP Meltdown to save estate taxes is headed in the wrong direction but hey, I’ll take that. My prime directive is to extract all my contributions by 70 at a lower tax rate than they went in and then let the rest just go on auto-pilot with standard RRIF withdrawals.

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    1. Nice, Zack.
      By RRSP Meltdown are you borrowing to invest, in a non-reg. account?

      My prime directive with my RRSP/RRIF is to knock that off before age 70 or age 75, this way and to your point a bit…contributions went in at a much higher rate than when I hope to take them out!

      What are you investing in, these days, Zack?
      Cheers,
      Mark

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      1. No borrowed money interest deduction RRSP meltdown, just accelerating RRIF withdrawals while my income is low from retirement. I need to see how my taxes work out to see if I should crank it up and withdraw more than I plan to each year.

        Picked up some Nutrien this morning in my non-reg account, stock price has been hammered but 4% dividend that looks safe for 30+ years of retirement. Added EQB (Equitable bank) and MRU (Metro grocers) to my RRIF investments that is still in DRIP mode.

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        1. Gotcha.

          I think most folks use RRSP meltdown/drawdown to mean the same thing. All good. Just that formally, meltdown tends to mean some form of leverage.

          https://www.myownadvisor.ca/is-the-rrsp-meltdown-strategy-worth-it/

          As per my post, I’m not really doing anything with our portfolio.

          1. Owning more XAW over time.
          2. Keeping/raising cash equivalents.

          If I have a bit of $$$ to buy CDN stocks at depreciated prices, I will of course. Boring works.

          I do like EQB and own some. No Metro here but I won’t rule it out for my taxable account too. 🙂
          Mark

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  3. Well…..first off, great update and it looks like you and the wife are in a good spot, I know you will make the most of it, congrats on putting in the consistent focused work to get here.
    Myself, I just moved to an 90/10 split to an 80/20 by selling of XAW and moving that into ZAG. My first reason though is to reduce my investments into the US and especially the worst offenders in the MAG7 being Tesla, Meta and Amazon. For some reason on every financial site they say we shouldn’t have more than 20% Canadian but I can’t with a good conscience keep so heavily invested in the US with everything that is happening. XAW sits at 65% and this is why I am still contemplating moving to VGRO (or XGRO) like we chatted before, it drops me all the way down to a 40% exposure. I know investing isn’t supposed to be emotional, but I can still safely do that in an index and sleep good knowing that I’m doing my best to support my country with my investments.

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    1. Thanks, Chris!

      Just home from vacation and getting caught up on things…

      Yes, overall, the journey is going well. Ya, more of an 90/10 split as we enter 2025 = 90% equities and 10% cash/cash equivalents.
      I just feel a bit safer with my/our money this way. The rest of 2025 could be a tough investing year.

      Yes, XAW has a higher bias to U.S. stocks vs. “GRO” funds like VGRO, XGRO, ZGRO, etc. and has done better accordingly but who knows what the future holds. As long as you are meeting your investing goals – that’s really what matters. That could be via a GRO-related ETF, a BAL-related ETF or other.

      I certainly have increasing buying and shopping more locally in the recent year or so.
      Mark

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  4. Great stuff Mark! BTW, you mentioned Telus – which I also own. Yes, they’ve had some issues recently – but so far in 2025, they’re one of my top performers – up about 15% YTD! Let’s hope they continue to turn things around.

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    1. Yes, MikeyP – let’s hope?! That’s the challenge I find with any individual stocks – some soar, some tank in price at times and sometimes those periods could be many years for “those times”.

      How many stocks are you owning now?
      How many ETFs?
      How is retirement treating you?

      🙂

      Cheers,
      Mark

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      1. I own just over 20 stocks and just less than 5 ETFs. Believe me – you would recognize many of the names! 😉 At one point, I had been closer to 30 stocks but have tried to whittle that down to a more manageable number. I also have a cash position for some opportunistic buying (this whole Trump gong show is making me cautious yet determined). Still figuring out retirement but wouldn’t have it any other way – I’m so glad I pulled the trigger!

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  5. Hi Mark
    I just want to thank you for your open comments and guidance. To me it is a great source of information and verification of self thought process. I’m pretty much doing the same with 2025 also a transition for me. Although I have some concerns about how much I need present and future needs! And my stock picks!
    Please keep sharing you would be blessed with more

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